"Spanfeller is a twat" (theaspiringengineer)
03/21/2018 at 08:36 • Filed to: None
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"Spanfeller is a twat" (theaspiringengineer)
03/21/2018 at 08:36 • Filed to: None | 0
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Revelation of the day:
If you squint your eyes and look at the Santa Fe district, you could almost pretend we’re a 1st world country.
CalzoneGolem
> Spanfeller is a twat
03/21/2018 at 08:46 |
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I don’t understand the implication here.
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Spanfeller is a twat
> CalzoneGolem
03/21/2018 at 08:50 |
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Santa Fe is so developed in it’s “urban core” and clean, with wide lanes, universities, a train, and hybrid buses that for a moment you forget what country you’re in. But it’s a very limited area, look further and you’ll see it’s atop a 1950s dumpster, has overstressed infrastructure, and has only 50,000 residents despite having 300,000 people working here daily (meaning most people need to enter santa fe) and there’s only three main ways in: a toll road, an avenue that turns into a toll road, and an interstate highway.
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CalzoneGolem
> Spanfeller is a twat
03/21/2018 at 08:53 |
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Ok now I understand.
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> CalzoneGolem
03/21/2018 at 08:55 |
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It’s like those fake bacon things, they look like the real deal from a distance... But as soon as you grab it you know it’s a long way from being bacon.
punkgoose17
> Spanfeller is a twat
03/21/2018 at 09:12 |
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My brother in law just went to Mexico for the first time. The poverty and trash changed his views on immigration and environmentalism. I don’t think he realized Mexico is not a 1st world country.
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> punkgoose17
03/21/2018 at 09:14 |
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Mexico is a country of bubbles and echo chambers. I live in one of the nicer bubbles where we can sometimes get away with pretending bullshit...
fintail
> Spanfeller is a twat
03/21/2018 at 09:38 |
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Some of the US can be described in similar terms.
Milky
> Spanfeller is a twat
03/21/2018 at 09:50 |
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I could say the same about Detroit.
We no longer have any empty skyscrapers, which is great.
But most of the city still looks like:
Ash78, voting early and often
> Spanfeller is a twat
03/21/2018 at 09:57 |
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The best English expression for this is “Window Dressing”
The idea is that a really shitty house can look pretty nice if you put up some fancy curtains.
Not a judgment, just a language thing. A lot of the developing world does this, though — even places like Dubai that look all clean and neat and wealthy, but hide the fact that so much of it is done on the backs of underpaid, overworked immigrant labor. I could almost say the same about the US agriculture industry, especially in CA.
Long-Voyager
> Spanfeller is a twat
03/21/2018 at 10:15 |
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Sounds like a lot of the US.
Milwaukee is a good example. High-end housing on one block, next block is the slums.
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Spanfeller is a twat
> Long-Voyager
03/21/2018 at 10:22 |
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Well, then I guess we got out objective.
I feel like in civilization five when a world leader admints your culture’s influence on their people
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Spanfeller is a twat
> Ash78, voting early and often
03/21/2018 at 10:24 |
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Well, its true of many countries... I particularly despise Dubai’s use of immigrant workers...
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Ash78, voting early and often
> Spanfeller is a twat
03/21/2018 at 10:30 |
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It probably doesn’t help that their own money just comes freely out of the ground, many of them didn’t exactly have to show much hard work or ingenuity, yet they turn around and outsource their development to people who get exploited and abused. I’m all for capitalism and progress, but you have to draw a line.
(For what it’s worth, many of your fellow countrymen are here right now, building insanely large and overpriced houses. Half the time I see their kids out there at the construction site because they have nowhere else to go. It’s frustrating.)
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> Ash78, voting early and often
03/21/2018 at 10:39 |
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I don’t really have an answer for that... As most Mexicans have said when we talk about illegal immigration “none of us is in favor of illegal immigration BUT”
It’s a self reenforcing system, we go there asking for less money, people get used to being paid less or be abused by their bosses, and then the bosses think they can do whatever they want.
If they should be there or not is not the point for me, for me it’s a thing of fixing ( the abuses) thistogether as friendly countries rather than provoking a semi race war as we have thus far achieved by our ignoring of the issue.
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Ash78, voting early and often
> Spanfeller is a twat
03/21/2018 at 11:12 |
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A few years ago during the US housing crisis, it was almost funny to hear many of the same politicians who complained about immigration start to worry about the same people leaving to go back to Mexico (or up to Canada) as wages stagnated. That’s how the market is supposed to work.
I live in a large suburb that has one of the highest concentrations of Latinos of anywhere in the state. That’s not saying much, but we have entire shopping centers that are Mexican- and Guatemalam-owned and I believe that’s a very good thing. After the initial “shock” of immigration (job disruptions, language barriers, etc), people seem to be much more tolerant and accepting.
Most Latinos here are still first generation (immigrated in the past 15 years or less) and have kids who are completely fluent in both languages — my daughter (4) has a best friend who is Mex-Am and her other best friend is Indian-American. It’s refreshing to see all of this in a part of the US that was historically known for its bigotry and racism.
Increasingly I see people every day who consider themselves Conservatives, but just don’t believe in any of the xenophobia or isolationism that many of our politicians push for. In fact, for many of us, our Christian faith is at odds with the political agendas. Maybe that’s why so many of our churches offer free English lessons. We don’t care about immigration status, we just want people to feel welcome and not isolated.
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Spanfeller is a twat
> Ash78, voting early and often
03/21/2018 at 17:10 |
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That is great!
What I’m scared of is that many of them feel attacked by some people who don’t even know them which is kind of the worst part...
I can’t speak for your community, but those
albañiles
still probably live better in the US than here; I think that our goal (and the goal of Nafta, really) is to make our nations more connected to prop up North America as a hub for research and manufacturing, part of it is saving xenophobia (on both sides I must add, I know more xenophobic Mexicans than Americans and that says a lot) for another date like... never!
Nafta was meant to help the majority of North Americans and it failed because it was flawed, all that money and jobs that moved south to us? well, the profits went back up to Detroit in case of cars, and to the hands of the executives. Had it been implemented correctly, we would be looking at a completely different environment today!